Faculty Off The Clock - Featuring Beth Goodier

What happens when faculty step away from the classroom and the lab? In this episode of Faculty Off the Clock, we sit down with Professor Beth Goodier to explore the passions, pursuits, and pastimes that shape their life beyond academia. From unexpected hobbies to meaningful side projects, discover a different side of the faculty you thought you knew. 

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🎙️ Produced by Michael Overholt

📍 Recorded in Podcast Studio #1, Addlestone Library

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:08

We welcome you to this episode of Faculty Off the Clock, a podcast series hosted by the College of Charleston's Office of the Provost that highlights the personal and lighter sides of our campus's professors. I'm Mark Del Mastro.

SPEAKER_02 0:21

And I'm Chris Corey, Associate Provost, and your host of Faculty Off the Clock. For this episode, we welcome Dr. Beth Goodyer of the Department of Communication. Thanks for being with us.

SPEAKER_08 0:41

Thanks for having me. I'm excited to talk with y'all.

SPEAKER_02 0:43

So we always start uh just to get a little sense of how it is you got to the College of Charleston.

SPEAKER_08 0:49

Mine's kind of a roundabout story. My um I I went to graduate school and I was married, and my husband wanted to go to medical school. And so when I started looking for jobs, I only looked at universities that had medical uh universities with them as well. And so I found the College of Charleston. I actually went to Clemson, so did my husband, and we left Charleston. I was like, ooh, that would be good. Applied for the position, uh had a great phone interview, and then there was a hiring freeze. And sometime around March or April, I picked up the phone and called Doug Ferguson, who was the chair, and said, Hey, I'm just checking in. I don't know if maybe anything's changed. And he he goes, Hold on a second. It would never happen like this now, right? Right? Hold on a second. And um about five minutes later he came back on and goes, Yeah, we'd like to bring you on campus for an interview. And I came on campus and worked out well. They liked me, I liked them.

SPEAKER_01 1:40

And fast forward, here you are.

SPEAKER_08 1:42

Fast forward, my husband went to medical school, did residency, did fellowship and training, and is now in attending at M UC. So it worked out for both of us.

SPEAKER_01 1:49

Yeah, it sure did. That's fantastic. Well, we're gonna kind of go more back in time and delve a little bit uh into your youth. And if you could tell us first from the very beginnings where you were born and raised.

SPEAKER_08 2:02

Oh, born and raised is hard, believe it or not. I was born in Augusta, Georgia, but my father was in the military. So I lived and was raised a lot of different places. So I lived um in Texas, Alabama, Georgia, Germany, Hawaii, uh Texas again, Washington, D.C., a little bit of everywhere.

SPEAKER_01 2:19

Where were which of those locations prompts the more vivid recollection? Hawaii is Hawaii. How old were you when you were in Hawaii?

SPEAKER_08 2:26

Sixth grade to 10th grade. So like that part of Hawaii. Yeah, that was a good time.

SPEAKER_01 2:31

Kind of blossoming at the same time.

SPEAKER_08 2:33

Yeah, figuring out who you are in the world, all those things all come. I think I al I train that all back to my time in Hawaii.

SPEAKER_02 2:38

Never been to Hawaii, Dr. Corey? You? It's one of our favorite places. Really? So it was on the So we lived on Oahu.

SPEAKER_08 2:45

My dad was stationed at Tripler Army Medical, the big pink hospital. Um, but we lived in Kailua, so um kind of on the more side. Yeah, I love it.

SPEAKER_01 2:54

Have you ever been able to get back?

SPEAKER_08 2:55

I've gone back a couple of times. One of my best friends still lives there and got married, and I went back for her wedding, um, took the kids and my husband. It was fun. Oh, nice. But we don't get there a lot. It's a long, it's a long trip here.

SPEAKER_04 3:06

That's what I've heard.

SPEAKER_02 3:07

Yeah. So do you have did you have particular activities as a kid you liked doing, maybe in Hawaii or another local? Everywhere.

SPEAKER_08 3:14

Yes. Uh I mean I was a big reader, not surprisingly. I think most faculty are probably big readers growing up. Um loved books. I also loved going to the beach, and I I, you know, I I tried a lot of different things. I tried windsurfing. I was not very good at that, probably more boogie boarding back in those days, but no. Probably reading was my big thing. I actually had a um a conversation with my mom at one point because I was buying so many books a week. There was a bookstore right next to my middle school, so I feel like it was it was Baskin Robbins at a bookstore in schools, like a great combo. Um, where she said, you know, you you can't spend more than X number of dollars a week. And I remember saying, I will never do that to my children. Fast forward, I had a bookworm as a child who would spend way more than me.

SPEAKER_02 3:52

And I was like, you can't spend quite that much. Did you did you have a favorite series?

SPEAKER_08 3:56

Oh, yeah. Let's get really cheesy. Um, Sweet Valley High was a big series back in that day. And my favorite book of all time of that era was Down a Dark Hall. Lois Duncan wrote all those kind of scary, eerie ghost dark academia vibes back in the day. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:12

Nice. You had a lot of different places where you resided when you were young, and so you probably have some pretty uh strong opinions about your favorite vacation spots. No?

SPEAKER_08 4:27

No, not really. It's funny. Uh you know, I think when you travel, and we traveled all the time. When I was when we lived in Germany, we there was never a weekend we were home. I was an only child, so we traveled every weekend all the time. And for years, I actually didn't really want to travel. We were kind of busy building a life and building a family and building careers. So we didn't travel a lot. Only recently have we started traveling again. Uh we went to Costa Rica last uh Christmas uh time. Um but no, really haven't traveled a lot at all as an adult.

SPEAKER_01 4:56

Maybe coincidentally with the empty nest phenomenon? Yes, we're starting to travel more as our children have left out.

SPEAKER_08 5:03

We've traveled a bit, but just it just was almost like I enjoyed being in a one place for a while. Sure.

SPEAKER_02 5:08

You know, yeah. Um so Mark and I like talking about what our most memorable or worst summer jobs were. Did you have one in in any of your locations?

SPEAKER_08 5:19

So my first job actually in Hawaii, I was 12 years old, and I delivered papers for a newspaper called the Sun Press. It was a weekly newspaper. And you would get the newspapers, you had to fold them up, put them in the bag, get on your bike, and you know, do you have a canvas bag? I did, I have a canvas. I still have that bag, actually. I found it at my parents' impressive. Yeah, I still have it. I don't know what I'm why I still have it. I shouldn't have to be able to do that. What kind of bike were you? Uh I honestly don't even remember.

SPEAKER_04 5:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_08 5:49

Probably Schwin banana seed. Yeah. Yeah, that was mine. Um Schwin banana, I think it was teal. I do remember it was teal. Uh what time was this a morning? It was an afternoon paper, thank goodness. It was an afternoon paper. They would deliver the papers in the morning, you delivered them Thursdays. Oh, I remember that, but Thursday afternoons. The best part though was that to get paid, I had to go around to every person I delivered that paper to once a month and ask them for two dollars. And I got to keep one dollar and I had to pay the paper the other dollar. So you were motivated, right, to get paid.

SPEAKER_07 6:20

And so you got really, you know, I felt like I got really strategic about waiting till people would come home and being on the sidewalk right in front of the house.

SPEAKER_01 6:28

Did you have one of those little it was like a little uh it was like a uh trans a mobile porta porta like index of all of your residence? All of your residence. It had two little hoops on it that you would rotate and you'd record up. Okay.

SPEAKER_08 6:46

And then I would have to make change out of my dad's change jar in order to have, you know, money when somebody gave me a five dollar bill for two dollars. Two dollars not the easiest thing to collect.

SPEAKER_01 6:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:59

Johnny. Four weeks. Twenty papers, that's two dollars plus two. Gee, Johnny, I don't have a dime. Sorry. Didn't ask for a dime. Two dollars. Well, uh, it's funny, see, my mom had to leave early to take my my brother to school and my dad to work because two dollars.

SPEAKER_08 7:22

Cash. So that's good times. So that's probably my most um I learned a lot of resilience, I think, in that job. But I did it for a long time, because you know, you can't get jobs when you're 12, really. So that was I think I did it to us about 10.

SPEAKER_01 7:36

Well, there's a lot of skills associated with those old paper roots, right? You had a little some basic accounting, you some negotiation skills, some persistence with, you know, Dr. Corey, who's never paying his monthly paper bill. I mean, yeah. Did you did you throw from the bike?

SPEAKER_08 7:52

I did throw from the bike, yeah. I got really good at it after a while. Yeah, a little physical etcue.

SPEAKER_01 7:57

Yeah, see, I I we had this conversation before, Dr. Corey. I I would not throw it. I was too nervous about giving my hand eye coordination and breaking the front door. So I'd get off the bike and and put it right on the side.

SPEAKER_08 8:09

I got really good. I could get it right on the front uh on the little map. I couldn't. I didn't trust my throwing skills. But remember, houses in Hawaii don't have a lot of breakable windows. They have like little louvers. So if you broke anything, you were just gonna break one tiny little louver. Yeah. One too bad.

SPEAKER_01 8:22

Did you have a first pet?

SPEAKER_08 8:24

I did. Well, my very first pet was probably a uh like a blue parakeet named JJ Blue Jay. I was very creative as a child, as you can see. And then I had a dog named Snoopy.

SPEAKER_01 8:35

So I'd like to know a little bit about the parakeet, because I had for a brief time in my youth, a couple of parakeets. Um did had did you train the parakeet?

SPEAKER_08 8:46

Uh yeah, I did. And a funny story my mom used to tell, so we would we'd train the parakeet to talk, and he would say things randomly here and there. Like for example, uh Hi, how are you? Wow. Yeah, it was random. I I I I say we trained him. I think he actually just overheard us talking and started thinking about language. But evidently we were robbed when I was like seven, and the robber was in the house and heard the parakeet and thought it was a human. And so he actually got caught down the street not too far after he left our house and was like, Yeah, the man came home. It was me and my mom that came home, but it was way after they caught him in. They said they think it was the parakeet that said, Hi, how are you? What are you doing?

SPEAKER_01 9:23

And did you ever revisit having a parakeet? No, never again.

SPEAKER_08 9:28

No, I don't know. I think home alarms are a much better choice than the parakeet.

SPEAKER_01 9:31

And what about Snoopy? What kind of thing? Snoopy was a lassa opsa shelty.

SPEAKER_08 9:35

And I named her Snoopy after my grandmother's Sheltie, who I loved, um, named Snoopy as well.

SPEAKER_01 9:41

And do you have a dog now?

SPEAKER_08 9:42

I do. I do. We have a dog. It's a um Havanese Shih Tzu mix. Oh, great, yeah. Named Kingsley after Kingsley Shacklebolt and Harry Potter. So again, we're not super creative with our names in our house.

SPEAKER_01 9:54

Oh, that's great.

SPEAKER_08 9:55

Yeah. They're great. He's a he's a sweet dog.

SPEAKER_02 9:58

All right, our last uh question in this section is uh favorite board game growing up. Ooh, that's hard.

SPEAKER_08 10:03

I love we have family game night at my house all the time. Um growing up, a probably trivial pursuit because I liked to try to prove how smart I was. Not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_02 10:16

A favorite uh color?

SPEAKER_08 10:17

Uh n then was probably geography. Now not so much. Uh now it'd probably more be more entertainment or science, I would guess.

SPEAKER_01 10:26

So when you have family reunions back at the house and the kids are home, oh yeah, we played.

SPEAKER_08 10:30

We had Family Game Night on um 4th of July. Oh wow, that's wonderful. Yeah, we did not play Trivial Pursuit. My my children don't love that one as much as I do. We played, let's see, we played Left, Right, Center, we played um call a card game called Doomlings. Have you all seen this game? Not familiar. Kind of fun. Uno, we always love a good Uno match.

SPEAKER_01 10:48

And the kids are excited when they come back home to play again.

SPEAKER_08 10:51

Yeah, my kids like Family Game Night too.

SPEAKER_01 10:52

See, so credit to you because you didn't traumatize your kids too much during that youthful experience from not knowing to play anymore.

SPEAKER_08 10:59

So you know what's funny? I was when I was a child, I was an only child, we would do Family Game Night every once in a while, but my dad would cheat, like terribly at Clue, because he didn't really want to play. So he would sneak and look at the cards in the Clue game. And I was traumatized as a child, so I always wanted games to be fun. And so So you remedied it. So yeah. Yeah, I healed that generational trauma. Um but yeah, my kids we like we we don't play long usually. We'll usually, you know, we'll just pick a night, wear a set a Sunday afternoon, something like that. Like my son loves board games. Carson, my daughter, love likes them too, but probably likes card games more.

SPEAKER_04 11:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_08 11:35

Great.

SPEAKER_01 11:35

Well, we're gonna switch gears a little bit and talk about your childhood grammar school years. Oh gosh. And if you could give us a fun fact about yourself from that period of time that you think might be surprising or amusing to our listeners.

SPEAKER_08 11:48

I don't think it will surprise anyone that I liked to tell people what to do when I was a child. Oh I don't think it's shocking anybody who knows me well. Uh I would I would direct people, I would write plays and shows, and then direct the people that were forced to be in aftercare with me in those shows. I was not surprisingly, again, a little bit bossy. And uh would say, hey, this is gonna be something fun we're gonna do, and we're all gonna get on board, and they did. And so we would put on these shows for the other kids in aftercare, and then my dad had one of those old VCR cameras, you know, the kind you used to carry on your back. Oh, yeah, they were heavy. It was a workout. And so I decided it'd be really fun if I recorded the um shows and then sold them to the parents. And so I started my own little business selling. But then my mother made me give the money away to charity.

SPEAKER_02 12:42

No downer.

SPEAKER_08 12:44

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 12:45

Do you have any of these left?

SPEAKER_08 12:46

Um I a great question. You know, I don't think so. I shouldn't say no because I have um I probably do have one or two of them.

SPEAKER_01 12:55

Have your children seen them? No. Oh, you shouldn't have to be. I was never in them.

SPEAKER_08 12:58

Let's be clear. I was never in the shows. I was like, in the background. I had the vision.

SPEAKER_01 13:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 13:05

I did not perform in the shows.

SPEAKER_01 13:07

That's a great story.

SPEAKER_08 13:08

Yeah, that was my uh yeah, I did a lot of that growing up.

SPEAKER_01 13:11

That's fantastic. Well, we we got the same fun fact question for your high school years.

SPEAKER_08 13:15

Well, so not surprisingly. I actually carried that through into high school. Not on purpose. I went to a communication magnet school in Hawaii, um, and it was a really cool concept back then. I don't I'm sure they have something even cooler now, but you would in your history class, you'd write a research paper on some historical event. I chose Henry VIII, and then you would take that research paper and turn it into a script for your English class. And then the English class, they'd pick one or two, but in this case it in my year was one, and they would turn that one into a production. So then you'd film, so then we had a film class, so then you would film the play. So the the other students in the class were the actors, and then you would edit it, and then we submitted it for awards. So I actually I did carry that through.

SPEAKER_01 13:56

Well, you had an advantage.

SPEAKER_08 14:00

Yeah, I did. So uh that was my high school world. Yeah, it was kind of very learning community based. It was really it was actually really fun. That one I did find recently, and I threatened all of the people that were um in the show that I was gonna put it on Facebook or YouTube for them to watch. I did watch it and I was like, whoa, this is bad. This is so bad. But at the time it was You gotta start somewhere.

SPEAKER_02 14:22

You sure do. So we wanted to hear a little bit about your undergraduate years. Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_08 14:27

So I went to Clemson University, go Tigers, love Clemson. Sorry for those of you who don't. Um I, you know, I think like a again, like a lot of academics, changed my major many, many times because I loved to do that.

SPEAKER_04 14:38

What did you start out with?

SPEAKER_08 14:40

Started in psychology. Okay. Um my dad was a clinical psychologist. I think it was something I knew and I enjoyed, and I did really enjoy it. I just didn't see myself doing it, I think. Um moved on to English, because again, everybody who loves to read thinks thinks they're gonna love being an English major. Very quickly decided at that point that I actually thought I wanted to be a physical therapist. I think I'd had an injury and had gone to physical therapy and thought this looks like a good job. Started volunteering because to get a physical therapy school you had to get a certain number of volunteers hour volunteer hours. Um changed my major to physical therapy, but at Clemson that's only a three-year degree, and there was no way I was staying at Clemson for three years. I wanted to be there the whole time. And so I declared this new major communication, which had only just started at the school at the time, um, and then kind of fell in love with it and realized I didn't really like physics, and I really didn't like physical therapy as a job. Uh by the time I got into like hour 600, I was like, hmm, this is a lot of the same thing every day. Uh and I really loved calm. And so I ended up, you know, kind of moving over into that world and uh loved my professors, loved my classes, just kind of found my niche.

SPEAKER_01 16:16

I think I did it with it. What would what would surprise us all?

SPEAKER_08 16:19

Oh, I don't think anything would surprise you. I was I was in a sorority, I joined probably every honors organization I could be a part of.

SPEAKER_01 16:27

Um What was your sorority?

SPEAKER_08 16:29

Oh, it's a treadmill.

SPEAKER_01 16:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_08 16:31

Yeah. And I was in, so probably the thing that it wouldn't really surprise you, probably, but the uh there's an organization at Clemson called Blue Key, and Blue Key put on Tiger Rama, which was at the time the nation's largest student run pep rally. And so I was uh yeah, and it's now a little bit smaller, obviously, but um it was they filled the All of Death Valley with people, and you would do this huge pep rally where all the organizations on campus, mostly Greek but other organizations as well, would come out and do these skits that they would the skits would be recorded in advance and they'd play the sound over the loudspeaker, but the um the people performing the skits were doing these great big gestures so that you could see them across the whole stadium. So they have huge costumes and you know, very dynamic movements and so it was a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_01 17:16

Big big draw?

SPEAKER_08 17:17

Big draw. It would bring in, yeah. I mean, I think my year it was maybe twenty something thousand people, which is a lot of, you know, for a for a game.

SPEAKER_01 17:24

I mean, not like the Savannah Bananas.

SPEAKER_08 17:26

No, no, no, no, definitely not like Savannah Bananas, which I went to that, by the way. It was awesome. It was so cool.

SPEAKER_01 17:32

And they filled the stadium for that. Oh, 100%.

SPEAKER_08 17:34

It was it was full and nobody left. Unlike some games where people will leave from time to time, it was full from the beginning to the end of the day.

SPEAKER_01 17:40

Amazing. Wow.

SPEAKER_08 17:41

Yeah, yeah. So that was a great experience. I got to learn a lot of uh, frankly, a lot of leadership lessons very early in my life because you're trying to manage students who are running this event, but you're also dealing with um promoters and and um you know suppliers and providers, and you're trying to get everything coordinated for this, selling tickets and getting the band coordinated to be there and just buy tickets. It's homecoming. Yeah, it's homecoming. Yeah, it's homecoming week. So it was a great, I mean, I learned a ton, I loved it. I made some of my best friends, honestly, because that you you do that for a whole year. So you're in my case, the assistant director serves one year and works with the director, and um and so you work with all these friends that you're working with in that organization for two years while you're putting together these events. So little known fact, the director of my year was actually my husband. So I'm very interested. We he hired me. Makes me sound not so good when I say he hired me. Just gonna say. Um and he did not like me. He actually he actually picked me because everybody else on the panel said I would be good, but he was not such a fan of the case. You grew on him. Yeah. Yeah, he said I was too serious. He thought I would be too serious, not not fun. That's great.

SPEAKER_02 18:54

So then what what uh what changed his tune?

SPEAKER_07 18:56

I think he realized I actually was a lot of fun. I just I wasn't an interview. I had my interview face on. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:04

So did you stay on it, Clemson, for graduate school?

SPEAKER_08 19:07

No, no. I went to graduate school at the University of South Florida. Yep. And then got my communication, my master's and PhD in communication. So I actually worked for two years after I graduated as an organizational change consultant, is what they called us back in the day. And um really enjoyed the work, but realized, thought, oh gosh, I I feel like I'm not doing this exactly right. Maybe there's more I need to know. Um went on to graduate school uh in Tampa um and got started, was planning to just get a master's degree and go back to work, and I fell in love with teaching while I was there.

SPEAKER_02 19:39

So any any um good stories from Tampa?

SPEAKER_08 19:42

Oh. I was very poor while I lived in Tampa. No good stories, weren't we all? Got really good at Uno. Uh no, I met um again, I met some some amazing people and made some really good friends, but I I honestly all I remember about Tampa is studying and you weren't that boring though during graduate school.

SPEAKER_01 20:00

Were you?

SPEAKER_08 20:00

I was super boring in graduate school. I was a lot less boring in in high school and uh undergraduate. I had a lot more fun than graduate school, I was nose to the nose to the graduate school.

SPEAKER_02 20:09

So I have a a a technical question. Why is there no S on the end of communication?

SPEAKER_08 20:14

Actually, there is if you're studying mass communication. So the distinction is here at the College of Charleston, we are a speech communication, general communication. That's why no S. If we had an S on the end of our major, it would suggest that we do mass communication, which we do not.

SPEAKER_02 20:32

I made the mistake. Very interesting. Depends on who you're talking to. It did not go well.

SPEAKER_08 20:38

Yeah, some will some will some will get very offended. I do not get it. But that is it. That's the answer to your question.

SPEAKER_01 20:45

Okay, well, that's a good segue question because we're now we're gonna move to the present and you know, refocusing a bit on the the off-the-clock life of Dr. Beth, and hopefully you can tell us a little bit about any hobby or pastime activity that you now enjoy regularly.

SPEAKER_08 21:04

So I still love to read. Uh I s I like to play golf when I can. It's a long, it's a hobby that takes a lot of time, so it doesn't happen.

SPEAKER_01 21:12

How did that hobby start for you?

SPEAKER_08 21:13

Um, you know, I played a little bit with my parents growing up. Um, both your parents were avid golfers? Not avid. They just played from time to time. And they taught you? My grandfather played. I played with him when I was younger. Um my husband plays and is quite good. So I started playing with him when we were in the city. Do you still play together? We do. Okay. Yeah. Um he's much better than I am.

SPEAKER_07 21:34

Okay. But you enjoy it.

SPEAKER_08 21:36

Yeah, I like it a lot. Okay. My daughter plays, she played in high school. Um and my son plays, but he doesn't like to play. He would much rather ride in the cart and do whatever else. No, that's not hang out together.

SPEAKER_01 21:46

That's not a bad way to go.

SPEAKER_08 21:49

When we were growing up, when they were growing up, we would go out and play golf and he'd play a couple holes and then he'd be like, Okay, I'm gonna read my book. The rest of us would keep playing.

SPEAKER_01 21:56

Let me know when you need the cart.

SPEAKER_08 21:57

Yeah, let me know when you uh need the card.

SPEAKER_01 21:58

Following the family tradition of reading. Exactly. That's great.

SPEAKER_08 22:01

So we did I do that from time to time. Probably um the hobby that took me the longest to develop that I enjoy is meditation. Like for years I couldn't do it.

SPEAKER_01 22:12

Whoa. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 22:13

And then When did you start that? Oh, I started trying to do it when I was in graduate school. Um I was studying spirituality in organizations. And so I was trying all kinds of new spiritual things, new at the time, not that new obviously. But I shadowed a guy who was a CEO of a hospital, and every day at lunch, noon, he would he would um meditate for 30 minutes. And he said, You can shadow me for six weeks. You can write down everything I say or do. But every day at noon, when I meditate, you have to put everything down and you have to do this with me, because otherwise it's just kind of weird. I was like, okay. And I was terrible. Like it was painful for me to sit quietly for 30 minutes. And you know, they say, like, clear your mind, and if if a thought comes into your mind, sweep it away. I mean, I'd be sitting there with images of brooms and think, I need to sweep my kitchen. Like it would just get me thinking about all the things I needed to do. And for years I couldn't do it. And then suddenly, um, and and I think it probably post-COVID, my mom passed away. Like, suddenly I had this um just this period of my life where it got a little bit easier. We also happened to get a Peloton at that time, and they have meditation on that app. And I think that all that together, just for some reason, it was the right. I I had kept trying for years, like every few months I'd try again. And for some reason at that point in my life it clicked. Um and now it's something I do very regularly.

SPEAKER_01 23:36

So is it something you do alone or do you do it? Oh, yeah, totally by myself.

SPEAKER_08 23:39

Yeah, no, I I've I mean I've c I can do group meditation, but I I just do it by the way.

SPEAKER_01 23:44

Is there a preferred location that you meditate?

SPEAKER_08 23:47

It just depends on where I am. Sometimes on my back porch, sometimes it's in my my exercise room, sometimes in my office. If I don't, you know, if I get to work and haven't done it yet, I'm like, oh can I go ahead and do it real quick.

SPEAKER_02 23:57

Do you meditate, Dr. Corey? Well, you know, you and I are not good at this. No, I know. We've had these conversations.

SPEAKER_01 24:04

Yeah, we had to do uh it was like a group um grounding, grounding kind of introspective exercise too with kind of people in the office and other people on camera.

SPEAKER_08 24:19

It doesn't work for me.

SPEAKER_02 24:20

Mark conveniently had other meetings at that time. Yeah, it's busy.

SPEAKER_08 24:25

I do think it tells me, like I tell my students all the time, because we'll talk about meditation or yoga or any of these practices, right? I'll talk in my class about like sometimes just not the right time. It's not the right place. It's you're not in the right headspace. Where I also think this whole notion that we have to be totally quiet is part of the problem, right? Meditation can be there can be somebody kind of guiding you through a meditation. You can go on a walk for a meditation. There's a lot of ways to do it. So I I think that's for me.

SPEAKER_01 24:52

My only real my first experience with that was Father McLaughlin in uh my Catholic high school with you know like 30 of us sophomores in high school. It was not a good experience. We didn't take it seriously.

SPEAKER_02 25:05

I had a decent one. I mean we lived in Cambridge. There was uh it was like mid-grad school. It was a Cambridge Zen Center. Oh yeah, I bet that was good. Which uh which was pretty good. I went to like a beginner class, tried it out. It was good.

SPEAKER_01 25:17

You had a more positive experience at the time. I did.

SPEAKER_02 25:19

I think the hardest part for me was the like the like my knees do not handle the sitting and I don't like all the rules that come with some people's versions of meditation.

SPEAKER_08 25:29

I don't follow a lot like them. Well you like to be your own boss a lot. So I just have conflict. I just I'll lay down if I want to. I don't care. No, I don't think you I I think that's the problem. If you think there are all these rules, then you're so focused on my back hurts that you're not actually like getting the benefit of the introspection.

SPEAKER_01 25:50

I should go back to it. So is there anything that you haven't tackled off the clock that you would like to?

SPEAKER_08 25:57

What would be your I like to cook, but I'm not like a let me spend six hours in the kitchen kind of cook. I would like to become somebody who can make really amazing meals in an hour and a half or less.

SPEAKER_01 26:12

Any type of cuisine?

SPEAKER_08 26:14

I mean, No, anything. I mean, I you know, I cook most of the time, but I cook kind of the same thing. So I think I'd like to get more adventurous in my butt. But I also I think receptive to this uh Well Yes and no. Uh we I have this I tell this funny story about my son who when he was probably about eight or nine, I would try new dishes and and uh everybody ate it and he he ate a little bit and then he looked at me and he goes, I did not enjoy that. Please don't make it again. Oh my. I don't think anybody else anyway, no, no, no, sorry. He said thank you for the effort, but I did not enjoy that. I don't think anybody else did either. Please don't make it again. So it was like, I didn't know whether to be proud or offended, right? It was the nicest way of saying I did not care for them.

SPEAKER_01 26:58

Somebody didn't want to be subjected to it again. Yes, we submitted again.

SPEAKER_08 27:02

But it was, I do appreciate the effort that went into it. Sure, yeah. I'll give him that. Yeah, I I regularly sort of think I don't want to put a lot of effort into things like that. So cooking is probably the the the hobby I would tackle if I had a little more time and energy and effort.

SPEAKER_01 27:20

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_02 27:22

So if you weren't a faculty member at the college, what would you be?

SPEAKER_08 27:28

Uh I honestly am not sure I have a really great answer to that. I mean, I I think I think I would always be in a career where I get to work with people who are trying to develop into what they want to be in the world. I like working with uh even in the job that I had before, I was helping people sort of navigate change, navigate that next step in their life.

SPEAKER_01 27:48

Like a career coach, maybe?

SPEAKER_08 27:49

Yeah, yeah, maybe a career coach. I I mean I think of like organizational culture consultants, branding consultants, those kinds of people are are those are things I'm drawn to in my world. But yeah, I think I think working with young people, what I love about the job that I have is working with people when they're not exactly sure who they are, what they want, who they want to be in the world, and kind of helping them to find that path and then believe they can get there. I think that's really what I love about the work that I get to do.

SPEAKER_01 28:17

That's great. Yeah. Well, Dr. Beth, this is our lightning round, which we always conclude our faculty off-the-clock installments with, and where we ask each guest some important standard questions, again, about your life off the clock. Okay. We also want to clarify here that we do know the difference between thunder and lightning. But since this is an audio podcast, we had to settle on the thunder sound effect to cue this important portion of the interview. So that's that's an important disclaimer, and that we are aware of that distinction. So to start off, what's your favorite carb?

SPEAKER_07 28:56

My favorite carb pasta.

SPEAKER_02 28:58

Do you have a favorite protein?

SPEAKER_08 29:02

Probably steak, yeah. Sorry.

SPEAKER_02 29:04

Like steak. Mark was just teaching his daughter how to cook a quality steak. Yeah, Friday.

SPEAKER_01 29:08

Yep. Absolutely. Pizza or tacos?

SPEAKER_08 29:10

Pizza.

SPEAKER_01 29:12

Is there a certain place in Charleston?

SPEAKER_08 29:14

No, I'm not particular. I'm not really particular. I like Coastal Crest in Mount Pleasant. I like um there's a new place called Woodhaven that has a nice white pizza.

SPEAKER_02 29:26

Frozen yogurt ice cream?

SPEAKER_08 29:28

Oh frozen yogurt.

SPEAKER_01 29:29

Mustard or ketchup on a hot dog?

SPEAKER_08 29:31

On a hot dog mustard. French fries.

SPEAKER_01 29:38

Favorite soft drink.

SPEAKER_08 29:41

I don't really have to do it. I really don't. Does Topo Chico count as a soft drink?

SPEAKER_01 29:48

What is it?

SPEAKER_08 29:48

Topo Chico, it's like a soda water. If I had to when I was young, right, guys? Yeah. When I was younger, I would say Dr. Pepper, but I don't really drink soda anymore.

SPEAKER_04 29:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_08 29:59

Sorry.

SPEAKER_02 30:00

It's alright. Your your favorite off-the-clock activity that you would want to do right now.

SPEAKER_06 30:08

Probably go to the beach right now because it's so hot outside. I don't want to play golf in this weather, I can tell you that.

SPEAKER_01 30:16

And we had this set up, but I I'll ask it again, although I think we know the answer already, what your uh favorite off-the-clock activity is alone.

SPEAKER_08 30:25

Reading.

SPEAKER_01 30:26

Reading, sure.

SPEAKER_06 30:28

And meditating, because I definitely know how to do it.

SPEAKER_02 30:32

Uh favorite music band from your youth. Ooh.

SPEAKER_08 30:39

I honestly don't know. Ario Speedwagon comes into my head. So I clearly did some listening to Ario Journey. Absolutely. Oh yeah. Journey, probably, yeah. Journey.

SPEAKER_01 30:50

Cold or hot weather.

SPEAKER_08 30:53

I probably well, so I like I like living in more tropical places. I love visiting colder places.

SPEAKER_01 31:02

What's your favorite cold place?

SPEAKER_08 31:04

Uh uh Well, Germany. I like Germany a lot, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:09

Uh on your your barbecue? Mustard vinegar tomato base?

SPEAKER_08 31:13

Probably mustard base. I like vinegar too, though. I mean, again, I lived in Texas, North Carolina, and Tennessee, so uh I've happened to be a little bit more.

SPEAKER_02 31:21

No, really, no wrong answer. No, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_01 31:23

Those are all good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 31:24

Give me all three and let me know.

SPEAKER_01 31:26

Oh, I would agree, yeah. Plane, train, or automobile?

SPEAKER_08 31:32

It really depends on the context. I pr I like a European train.

SPEAKER_01 31:36

Uh-huh. Me too. I agree.

SPEAKER_08 31:39

I like a European train. Um I like a plane for getting the training.

SPEAKER_01 31:43

Have you taken the train in the U.S.?

SPEAKER_08 31:45

Uh yeah, actually I have. Yeah. Was it a good experience? It wasn't bad. Definitely wasn't bad. It's just not the same. Yeah, I think once you've been on a European train, everything sort of pales by comparison.

SPEAKER_01 31:54

So I also think it depends upon the where you go in the U.S.

SPEAKER_08 31:57

So I've taken it up to D.C. When we take the students up to D.C. New York, I've taken the train to D.C., I've taken it from D.C. to New York. And I've taken it into North Carolina when my parents were living.

SPEAKER_01 32:05

Yeah, I think some of those short regular commuting lengths uh in certain metropolitan areas are are are great. You know, but if you're looking to do the European thing where you're gonna travel, you know, a couple hundred miles, maybe not so much.

SPEAKER_08 32:19

I looked at taking my children to New Orleans from here on the train one year when my husband was in residency, and it was gonna take, I think, 36 hours or something. That sounds right. Yeah, like I don't think I'm gonna do that one.

SPEAKER_01 32:30

So unfortunate.

SPEAKER_08 32:31

Yeah, it really is. It really is. Because it's a great way to travel.

SPEAKER_02 32:34

Oh yeah, great. All right, now we're down to the serious stuff. Yep.

SPEAKER_08 32:37

All right. Who still uses a toothpaste tube? Oh wow. No. I do. I avoid that argument at all costs. You just have a lovely little container like this. Squeeze it, doesn't it doesn't stay in any particular position, it comes out, and I'll get one for you.

SPEAKER_01 32:56

Does it does it maximize the Yes?

SPEAKER_08 32:59

All the toothpaste does come out.

SPEAKER_01 33:01

That's my biggest concern is the waist. So there's you don't have to do the rolling. Do you have like a key on yours? It's done on the edge of the counter. And then um my wife always gauges my mood on when she enters the bathroom and sees that um I have taken the scissors to the top of the tube to get the last outstrop.

SPEAKER_08 33:27

The tube always gets messy. Like even if even if it's done well, that's No, I don't have that problem.

SPEAKER_01 33:33

Even when I I mean I have I have squeezed just about every bit out by the time I get to the scissors. That um but it but it but when I get to that point, it's always very concerning to my wife. Because I don't always cut it. It depends on my state of mind. So she'll say, honey, you cut the top of the tube. This isn't really a good week, is it? I say, well, there's things going on.

SPEAKER_05 33:52

Yeah, it's just slight stress stress relief. It's good that she has a gauge, though, that she's gonna be.

SPEAKER_01 33:56

Oh, yeah, she's got several. That's another conversation for another day. Um popcorn, yes or no?

SPEAKER_08 34:03

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 34:05

Is there a favorite way that you like to prepare? Yeah. So there's a lot of related questions. Just do you prepare popcorn at home?

SPEAKER_08 34:11

So I don't. I my dad every night would make popcorn on the stove, like the old-fashioned way. I can still hear the oil, the pan, you know, keep the top kind of only half taste. You know, holding it on. Every night. So that's how I every night. Every night, without fail. He would make popcorn around nine o'clock.

SPEAKER_01 34:31

A couple hours after dinner when people wanted a snack.

SPEAKER_08 34:33

He would make popcorn. It was really just for him, but other people got to have some. Without fail. I I can still smell it. I didn't like the house. So I just buy my popcorn ready-made. I don't even put it in the microwave. I'm that I'm that I'm that person.

SPEAKER_01 34:50

Okay. We we we'll I mean we'll we've done that on occasion. I prefer to make an of course Dr. Corey got me on the Whirly Pop.

SPEAKER_08 34:56

I I've heard about the Whirly Pop.

SPEAKER_01 34:59

Well, it's as close as you can genius contraption.

SPEAKER_08 35:02

But he would, I mean, like, this is a little easier.

SPEAKER_02 35:04

You're just sort of looking off kernel.

SPEAKER_01 35:06

But for me, it maximizes the kernel pop. Yes. So there's very little waste. It's magnificent.

SPEAKER_08 35:13

This is what I like about the popcorn I buy. There's no extra kernels in there.

SPEAKER_01 35:16

It is correct.

SPEAKER_08 35:17

Tasty, although it does go bad quickly, so you've got to be ready to do that. Yeah, this is true.

SPEAKER_01 35:21

You gotta eat it.

SPEAKER_08 35:23

So if I do make it, I like it with a little bit of parmesan cheese on it. Good choice.

SPEAKER_01 35:27

Together with so you'll put Parmesan cheese.

SPEAKER_08 35:30

No, if I do make it, which I very rarely get, I'll put Parmesan cheese.

SPEAKER_01 35:34

But if you get the store bought already made, eat it how it's made. However it's made. Do you like it like you know, flavor? Do you like the caramel corn, stuff like that?

SPEAKER_08 35:43

I do like kettle corn. Ah, yeah. Like a little salty sweet, not a lot of salty sweet.

SPEAKER_02 35:47

Understood.

SPEAKER_08 35:48

Good choice.

SPEAKER_02 35:49

A last question. Your entrance song at a celebrity event featuring you?

SPEAKER_08 35:53

Okay, what's the vibe of the event? Am I trying to get pumped up? Well, it's you.

SPEAKER_02 35:59

I mean, so you're changing culture. You're coming out.

SPEAKER_08 36:04

Changing culture. Okay. If I'm trying to like really get the mood going, I like a good eye of the tiger. Good job. Oh wow.

SPEAKER_02 36:15

Good choice.

SPEAKER_08 36:16

Maybe unstoppable. If I was really trying to shift mood though, walking on sunshine tends to get people kind of up and moving.

SPEAKER_01 36:23

So those are probably So you would rotate them depending upon the ability.

SPEAKER_08 36:27

Yeah, you gotta go kind of audience analysis. I mean think communication. Audience analysis, who's in the room. What's the vibe I'm trying to create? Who do I want to be in that room when I start talking? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:38

I'll consult you the next time I have to choose a. I think this is a hard one.

SPEAKER_06 36:42

I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_01 36:44

I hadn't thought about that that much. That's great.

SPEAKER_06 36:47

You gotta think about who are they gonna know the song?

SPEAKER_01 36:51

Very important. Agreed.

SPEAKER_06 36:52

Exactly. I always think about myself when I'm thinking about the room. It's not about you, Dr. Corey.

SPEAKER_08 37:01

I want to hear right now. What song do I want to hear? Welcome to the jungle.

SPEAKER_02 37:04

Maybe that's great. Professor Goodyear, thanks so much for sharing today about your time off the clock and for giving listeners an alternative glimpse into your life outside the classroom. We really appreciate it. And as a personalized marketing tool, we ask that you display in your office to bring attention to this podcast the bobblehead we will be getting to you to represent the lighter side as revealed to us today.

SPEAKER_08 37:25

I can't wait. I look forward to it.

SPEAKER_01 37:27

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 37:28

Stay tuned for next month's installment when we learn more about the life off the clock of another College of Charleston professor.