Faculty Off The Clock - Featuring Kate Pfile

What happens when faculty step away from the classroom and the lab? In this episode of Faculty Off the Clock, we sit down with Professor Kate Pfile to explore the passions, pursuits, and pastimes that shape their life beyond academia. From unexpected hobbies to meaningful side projects, discover a different side of the faculty you thought you knew. 

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🎙️ Produced by Michael Overholt

📍 Recorded in Podcast Studio #1, Addlestone Library

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:08

We welcome you to this episode of Faculty Off the Clock, a podcast series hosted by the College of Charleston's Office of the Provost that highlights the personal and lighter sides of our campus's professors. I'm Mark Del Mastro.

SPEAKER_03 0:21

And I'm Chris Corey, Associate Provost, and your host of Faculty Off the Clock. For this episode, we welcome Dr. Kate File, Associate Professor Chair of the Department of Health and Human Performance.

SPEAKER_05 0:33

Oh, actually, I've had a title change. Oh, what is it? Department of Applied Exercise Science. Sorry to interrupt.

SPEAKER_02 0:40

Hard to keep up with changes.

SPEAKER_03 1:05

Uh we always start before we get into the things uh that the podcast is really about. We wanted to get a sense, Dr. Fon of how you got to be here at the College of Charleston.

SPEAKER_05 1:14

Yeah, so my journey started as a student. Um so I did my undergraduate degree here at the college in so I came to campus 25 years ago in 2000.

SPEAKER_02 1:27

Oh, it's good to know that it was that positive that you wanted to come back, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:30

Yeah, exactly. Um so yeah, I was an undergraduate student. I came from Northern Virginia. I didn't know anybody.

SPEAKER_02 1:39

And what drew you to the college from Northern Virginia?

SPEAKER_05 1:42

So I, you know, I did like the classic kind of college tour, you know, I did like eight hours sort of south of DC, eight hours like up to Boston, north, and looking at schools. Um, but one of my objectives was to try to play college basketball. Um so I I was a walk-on here at the college, my freshman year, and it but I ended up playing, you know, a decent amount. Um I did not know that. Yeah. So it was a good experience in the sense that I learned that it wasn't what I wanted to do. Um, but that's uh one of the one of the reasons why I came here. I also was like drawn to an urban campus.

SPEAKER_04 2:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 2:18

Um, not like crazy New York City, but something that we're used I I mean, I and I tell, you know, prospective students and parents this still, but the idea of like you're not just seeing people who are between the ages of 18 and 25 and then faculty and staff, you know, to see like at varying ages stages of life was something that I was interested. Um so that was something that was really appealing to me as a student.

SPEAKER_02 2:45

So you're originally from uh Northern Virginia, where you were. Yeah, Falls City.

SPEAKER_05 2:50

Yeah, Falls Church City. I grew up um so it's kind of a strange not strange, but unique place in the sense that it's you know within this huge metro area. Um, but Falls Church City is an independent city. So it was like two square miles of an independent city. So it had its own school system and city government, and so there was like one school for, you know, there's only one elementary school and one middle school and high school. So the kids that you started with in kindergarten were the same students that you graduated with in high school, unless anybody moved in or out. So it felt very much like a private school in that case, but it was a public education. So it was kind of an interesting perspective. And you know, and surrounded by these schools that have two thousand, three thousand students. Right.

SPEAKER_03 3:35

Yeah. So growing up in Northern Virginia, did you have any favorite interests, activities? Must have played a lot of basketball.

SPEAKER_05 3:41

I played a lot of basketball.

SPEAKER_02 3:42

Yeah, I had a how how how early did you start playing basketball?

SPEAKER_05 3:46

Well, I had an older sister, so she's so my sister Sarah's four years older than me. So she started playing, you know, probably when she was like nine. I mean, there's like pictures of me, you know, at her games where I'm like shooting on the like lower hoops. So probably like five.

SPEAKER_06 4:00

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_05 4:01

Um, you know, not like officially, but then they had like clinics and stuff for little kids. I think my first team I was eight. So yeah, I mean a lot of basketball, you know, just kind of like your typical suburbia. My both my parents work, so I did daycare and summer daycare. You know.

SPEAKER_02 4:19

Any other activities besides basketball?

SPEAKER_05 4:21

That was really my main one. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I played like softball. I played some other sports too. But yeah, we had a pool in our backyard growing up. So, you know, like making routines in the pool with your friend, like all those things that it's funny, like you see that ki kids are still doing. Sure. You know, yeah. Anyway.

SPEAKER_02 4:39

Interesting. Yeah. Did you, if you had the opportunity to vacation, um did you have a favorite vacation spot growing up?

SPEAKER_05 4:47

So our family did a like standing beach week vacation. In Virginia. Well, no, we went to Sunset Beach, which is actually like on the south side of North Carolina, just north of North Myrtle.

SPEAKER_02 5:00

Um why that location? Any history there?

SPEAKER_05 5:03

I don't know for sure. So we went with we went this other family that like my godparents and their kids. So it was always, you know, these two families. We rented the same house. It was the same week in August, the same beach. Um, and I think that they were the other family was they the parents grew up in uh North Carolina, so I think they were familiar with it. It was very like uh like small, you know, there's like the classic like one-lane drawbridge to get on and off the island. So just you couldn't really get in trouble as a kid on at that beach. Sure. Uh there wasn't like a lot of you know nighttime activity. You run feral on the beach. Yeah, I mean like during the day, yeah. Like get up early, you know, boogie board, sand castles.

SPEAKER_02 5:46

Savage tan.

SPEAKER_05 5:48

Savage tan, try not to get burned, you know, go go back to the house for lunch, and then play a little uh Game Boy, a little Tetris. Uh yeah. Yeah, Tetris. Yeah, go back in the afternoon, you know. Do you still like the beach? I do. It's not like my preferred vacation.

SPEAKER_04 6:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 6:07

It's actually a compromise that my husband and I have made. Living here has been good because he's not a beach person. And I I like it, but I don't like seek it out as much as I could, should. Um but living here, we know that we never have to like vacation at the beach.

SPEAKER_02 6:22

Sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 6:23

So we can do a lot of other stuff. So we tend to like travel, you know, other places.

SPEAKER_02 6:27

Also one of those things that when you live there, you don't take advantage of it as well. Totally. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 6:33

I think I've been I think I went three times this summer. Yeah. Yeah, I haven't been once. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:37

Oh God, I haven't been in embarrassed to say, maybe a decade.

SPEAKER_05 6:40

Okay, well you guys you guys need to resolve that.

SPEAKER_02 6:42

That's a little bit of a I know, I know.

SPEAKER_03 6:44

Faculty off the clock live from the beach.

SPEAKER_05 6:46

Oh, that's a great area. I'd have to figure out the wind control issue. It's probably not gonna be as good as this podcast studio.

SPEAKER_03 6:54

Uh did you have uh when you were growing up in in a memorable summer job?

SPEAKER_05 6:59

So I was thinking about this. My earliest summer job, um, I actually worked for my dad. So my dad had like a small family business that he had taken on from his parents. And it was called modern microimaging, but it was sort of this idea of like you transferred documents or like media from so you know, like microfiche to print, or then it then it became like to digital. So one and he would get these like government subcontracts and stuff like that. So one summer he had this big I don't know if it was a government or like law firm job where they had to take everything that was on you know the microfiche like and blow and do what's called blowbacks where you like print out each page. So you put it in the reader printer and you like slide the micro microfiche slide over one and you hit print and then you just do that. So that was my job for the summer. But it was fun because he also hired like three of my other friends. So he would come and like pick us up. Like he picked us all up in the you know, he'd go to work, he came back, he'd like pick us up at like 9 30 or whatever, and we'd go and do the like time punch card, and you know, we'd do our like microfiche scanner for three hours, and then we would run across the street and get Wendy's for lunch every day, and then we would come back and do like a how was your dad as a boss? I mean, in this was like fifth grade, so it was pretty fun. He would like you know, put little like soda money on every on the top of everyone's machine every day. Yeah, I mean he made it fun, but we also got paid, I mean, minimum wage, but yeah, it's funny.

SPEAKER_03 8:35

Any secret files that you would read as they were going?

SPEAKER_05 8:38

No, I it was so boring. I mean, I it was just yeah, I I I think some of it was like canceled checks for, you know, and then just documents, just like So you can't tell us if UFOs exist from the side. I don't know anything about that.

SPEAKER_02 8:52

So that sounds like one of your more favorable jobs of memory. How about the worst summer job? Worst summer job. If you had one.

SPEAKER_05 9:00

Yeah, I played a lot of basketball in the summer, so I didn't really tend to be employed, but I I would say my worst job um growing up was I was like a uh a referee, like youth basketball referee. Brutal, brutal. I mean it was like, you know, I think I'm 15 and I'm reffing. I remember reffing for like, you know, the eight and nine-year-old boys league. God, the parents were brutal. I mean, you miss a travel. I mean, if you first of all, if you call every travel for an eight and nine-year-old basketball, I mean it's like double dribbles of travel. It's just like fouls, you know. So there's some level of judgment where you just kind of had to be like, okay, that wasn't egregious enough to really call it. But yeah, I mean, it was that I think I lasted one season of that, and I was like, I'm and the pay wasn't great. No, the pay was not great. It was early hours on Saturdays, you know, you're getting up at like you have to be at the gym at like 7 30 for the eight o'clock game. Anyway, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:57

Yeah, does this sound that great?

SPEAKER_05 9:58

No, it wasn't. Sorry, I mean, so referees is a thankless, regardless of sport or level. Where you get that from? And even as an adult and playing in, you know, adult rec leagues that have refs, you're just like, come on, people, like, stop picking on these people. They're not getting paid enough to be, you know, navigating your fights with the other players on the other team.

SPEAKER_02 10:31

Yeah, yeah. Did you um have any pets growing up?

SPEAKER_05 10:36

We had a cat, Sandy, very original name. My first pet of memory was a cat. I think my sister?

SPEAKER_02 10:44

Not so much, huh?

SPEAKER_05 10:45

I didn't particularly I'm not like anti-cat, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 10:50

But that particular cat was you didn't have a really good sounds like you didn't have a good relationship with her.

SPEAKER_05 10:54

Yeah, no, I one night she like slept on my like on my chest and I was wearing, you know, like waffle knit pajamas, and I just remember she was like clawing me, and I was so afraid to like pick her off of me. Anyway, she you know some people are cat people. It's not it's not for me. And then I wanted a dog. My parents got me a dog for my I think ninth birthday. Kind of dog. Like a black black lab rescue mutt situation. I wasn't involved in picking it out. It was a surprise and uh fond memories of didn't go well because sh the dog had clearly been like abused. She was very afraid of my dad. So I think I only had her Ruby was her name. I think I only had Ruby for like a year or two, and then I like went away to camp and then came back and Ruby was no longer with us. So, but I do have two dogs now.

SPEAKER_02 11:43

Okay. What kind of dogs do you have?

SPEAKER_05 11:44

Uh so we have a Corgi.

SPEAKER_02 11:46

Oh, great dog. Yeah, smart.

SPEAKER_05 11:48

Yeah, she's uh she's the alpha. She's uh thirteen and a half. Oh am I? Okay. Yeah. So her name's Nina Sausage Biscuit. And uh and then we have a a rescue dog that we got um like twelve years ago, and so he's also older, but you can't tell. Uh his name's Donald Dog, and he's like a pit mix with a lot of other And they get along well. Uh he is submissive to her. Okay. Yeah. I mean, yeah. So sh let's do that. Yeah, the female, yeah. So the female Corgi rules the rules.

SPEAKER_02 12:23

Yeah, I have a male and female dog, and the female is definitely the she was the you know our first dog too.

SPEAKER_05 12:29

So she gets to say when and where he goes. And but yeah, they're funny characters.

SPEAKER_03 12:35

Um so our last one before we get into your your early life. Um you mentioned the Game Boy Tetris. Is that your go-to game? Oh favorite?

SPEAKER_05 12:45

Like well, like video game, I would say Mario 3. Super Mario 3. I mean like original Nintendo. My wife is really good at Mario Brothers. Classic.

SPEAKER_02 12:58

About games growing up.

SPEAKER_05 12:59

Yeah, we I mean Monopoly. Monopoly. So I definitely played Monopoly with my sister. I I was joking I was gonna tell her this story, but she's like, oh.

SPEAKER_02 13:06

Is this like a family or just you and your sister would play?

SPEAKER_05 13:09

Uh like mm Sarah and I, my sister and I, you know, sometimes if we had a friend over, like we would play two.

SPEAKER_02 13:15

But they end well, the games?

SPEAKER_05 13:17

Well, the funny thing is that we wouldn't always get started because the the joke now that we're both adults is that you know, we're like home bored in the summer. Again, both of our parents worked, so we had a lot of time together. And it was like, um, hey Sarah, do you want to you want to play Monopoly? Uh sure, I guess. But but only if you set it up, you know, because like the whole like doling out the money and the cards and the things. And then by the time I got it set up, she's like, Okay, I'm actually going over to so and so's house, so see you later. And I'm like, Oh, wow. All right. Wow.

SPEAKER_02 13:47

But anyway, that's Did you have a preferred playing piece for Monopoly?

SPEAKER_05 13:51

Oh, I think I was commonly the hat. The hat. Why the hat? I don't know. It's easy to pick up, maybe.

SPEAKER_02 13:58

Yeah, there's a thimble. I always like the dog, but that was always a highly desired piece. I can never get it.

SPEAKER_05 14:03

I don't remember I don't remember so much that being like a the iron was like how did they come up with these? These are weird objects. Oh, people like different things, you know? Yeah. There's a shoe. I think I would go for the shoe also sometimes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:17

I like the dog. Everyone liked the dog in my family. Could never get the dog.

SPEAKER_05 14:20

Oh yeah. And then I would go for the like yellow and green corner on the board. Oh. That was my strategy. Marvin Gardens, I think.

SPEAKER_02 14:30

And uh Corey's real big on strategy and monopoly.

SPEAKER_03 14:33

A lot of my kids would always I think one of the kids would always go for all of the utilities I wanted all four.

SPEAKER_05 14:40

Like the railroads? Oh, like the power. Electric company, water, electricity. Yeah, I I I I mean, I now that we're saying this, I haven't played Monopoly in I couldn't tell you, 30 years. I mean, probably less time than that, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:53

With my memories of Monopoly.

SPEAKER_03 14:54

I think one of my kids would be the banker and then, you know, wouldn't hand out and then would keep taking money for himself. Right.

SPEAKER_02 14:59

Yeah, there's always seems to be a little bit of corruption that sees. Yeah, there's there's something potential.

SPEAKER_05 15:04

Yeah, because it was like somebody's in charge of the property cards, and then all of a sudden you're like, wait, when did you buy Connecticut Avenue?

SPEAKER_02 15:11

I'm sure when you have more than two players because people are easily distracted. There's a lot going on.

SPEAKER_05 15:16

You're reaching for the popcorn. You know, you go to get another soda. Yeah. No, it's problematic. Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 15:23

Let's focus a little bit more on your childhood grammar school years and uh a fun fact that you might share with us that uh would be surprising or amusing to our listeners. So that they wouldn't know about their five.

SPEAKER_05 15:38

I have like a hidden talent that I know a lot of the words to many oldie songs. I'm not gonna say all the words to all Oldie's songs, but I know a lot of Oldie's songs.

SPEAKER_02 15:52

Wow, like what genre of the cards?

SPEAKER_05 15:53

I mean like we're talking like British Invasion. Oh, like 60s. Oh yeah. Like Motown, British Invasion. That really yeah. Strangely.

SPEAKER_03 16:03

Listen to it on vinyl?

SPEAKER_05 16:05

No. My parent and like my dad had these tapes, they were called cruising classics.

SPEAKER_02 16:10

They were, you know So you're really good with lyrics, is what I'm gathering here.

SPEAKER_05 16:14

Like, yeah, like I would know I know the I I can sing along to most oldie songs.

SPEAKER_03 16:19

Kill it at karaoke.

SPEAKER_05 16:20

Like you're if it's in that category. You don't even need to. Don't ask me anything like post like 2010. I'm I'm not good.

SPEAKER_02 16:28

But anything before that, you're you're I mean I'm okay.

SPEAKER_05 16:30

Wow. Yeah, but I think the sixties is my special. You know, twenty years prior to my birth. Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_02 16:37

That's very interesting.

SPEAKER_05 16:38

Yeah, strange fact.

SPEAKER_02 16:39

Yeah. You you're pretty good, Dr. Corey, with m memorizing lyrics?

unknown 16:43

No.

SPEAKER_05 16:44

It's funny because now I hate karaoke.

SPEAKER_03 16:46

If someone would be like, let's go to karaoke, I'd be like, uh Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 16:49

Now I mean, like songs that come out now, I can't even if I like a song and I listen to it many times, I'm like, I still don't actually learn the words. I think it's just like you know, probably the same part of your brain developing language, you know. Yeah. It's just that much easier, more natural.

SPEAKER_02 17:05

Um same fun fact question for your high school years.

SPEAKER_05 17:09

Um high school Well, if I'm gonna be braggy, that I was the state player, single A state player of the year in Virginia one year. Really? In basketball.

SPEAKER_02 17:22

What year were you?

SPEAKER_05 17:23

Uh so that would have been 1998, my junior year. Wow. Did they make uh playing cards with you on it? No. No. No, I don't think I don't think. I made the paper, of course. I was in the yeah, I made the paper. I don't think I like got anything for it.

SPEAKER_02 17:37

And then just a trophy, maybe?

unknown 17:39

Ah, I don't think.

SPEAKER_05 17:42

I don't know. I don't think so. I mean, I ha's a big I mean that's a big thing. Then I was in that we because so my team won the we won this we won states that year also. Okay. So and then later that team and I were inducted into our like high school hall of athletics hall of fame.

SPEAKER_02 17:57

So I have a lot of So there's like a there's like a Hall of Fame like wall in your high school and and Kate Files up there. Yeah. So if we visited the high school, we can see it.

SPEAKER_05 18:06

My sister and I are both in our high school athletic hall of fame. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:09

Do you have a like letter jacket?

SPEAKER_05 18:11

I didn't get a letterman jacket, and I kind of wish that I had. I mean, I definitely have the letter. Yeah. And then I have like a ball because I I had, you know, a thousand point score, so I have the ball. And I actually just found that this summer, so I brought it in my office. So I now have that on my bookshelf. What else do you do with this ball? You know, it's been in a box for 25 years.

SPEAKER_02 18:30

When you go back to the high school, they all recognize you and say, Oh, look, it's Kate File Knight.

SPEAKER_05 18:35

No, but yeah, that's funny. Um, actually, my high school no longer exists by that name. They've like changed. I I think and I think it's been like digitized or something because well they they tore down the whole school. Oh, so it's like a brand new school and a brand new name. But a family friend who lives up there, he like took his son for a basketball game or something, like you know, little kids, and he was like, Looky what I found, you know, and he like took pictures of the like digitized Hall of Fame that yeah, that I'm in.

SPEAKER_03 19:06

That's very cool. We'll have to look and see if it's online. We'll put it in the show notes. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:10

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 19:11

I'll share the picture with you.

SPEAKER_02 19:12

Yeah, please do. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 19:15

Uh so so you came to the College of Charleston. Do you have uh any good stories to tell about your time here? Yeah. Did you live in the lodge?

SPEAKER_05 19:24

No, I lived in Bust, which is like I thought I think was an underrated dorm. I mean, in terms of it's a good location, so it's the one that's like right by uh student house center.

SPEAKER_02 19:34

So you enjoyed your experience living in Bust?

SPEAKER_05 19:36

Well, yeah, I think I did. I mean it was hall, it was an old dorm, so the rooms were bigger, but it was hall bath, so you know there's a trade-off there. But it was like so close to the dining hall, close like literally outside the back of the library at the time. Um and now it would be across the street from the library. Um yeah, I mean, I wasn't I didn't love my freshman year. I part of that was sports, so I actually looked at transferring. Really? Um yeah, and I applied to UVA and to Virginia Tech and got into both, and then I decided uh that I I did actually like it here, so I stayed.

SPEAKER_02 20:06

Interesting.

SPEAKER_00 20:14

You got to let me know. You got to let me know.

SPEAKER_05 20:39

It's always tasty But I majored in athletic training, and that was a I didn't know what I wanted to do when I when I came to the college. I was like, not science, not English. Um, you know, maybe history, but I didn't really know. And then I and then I ended up discovering what athletic training was, and so that was a good fit for me.

SPEAKER_04 20:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 20:57

So, you know, athletic training at the time was like an interesting major because it was an undergraduate degree, which it no longer is. You have to have a ma you can only get it as a master's. And we would travel with a with a team. So like I was assigned to like, you know, the w women's soccer team in my first year as an athletic training student. So everywhere they went, I went with them. So we traveled to you know, Western Carolina. And I remember we had a we had a game in Culloway. I don't know. Have you guys been to Culloway, North Carolina?

SPEAKER_02 21:25

I have not. Heard is very pretty. I've been close.

SPEAKER_05 21:28

It's small. It's yeah, my memory is that it's literally like a one at the time it was like a one-stop light town.

SPEAKER_04 21:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 21:33

In the mountains of North Carolina, Western North Carolina. Anyway, there was a big thunderstorm and but right before that, the goalie on my team uh got hurt. So she hurt her shoulder. Well, I was assigned to soccer knowing that I had learned about lower extremity injury evaluation, but I had didn't know any anything about upper extremity injury evaluation. I hadn't gotten to that class yet. And they're like, Well, soccer, nobody hurts their upper extremity. Oh, except for the goalie. She just Located her shoulder. And then, like, right as that happened, this huge storm. And so they ended up like sending us, you know, off the field into this like random room in a school building. And I'm by myself. And meanwhile, my athlete's like losing feeling in her hand. And I was like, I don't know what to do. You know, I'm kind of like panicking. So that's a bad situation. And that's why athletic training education, we no longer let students travel unsupervised for like those examples. That's probably smart.

SPEAKER_03 22:27

So you didn't do the one, two, three. Just I didn't want to do anything. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 22:31

I mean, I did eventually learn how to I did do that a few times as a grad student.

SPEAKER_03 22:36

Yeah. So you you moved from the College of Charleston where? And what did uh something cool about that time in your life?

SPEAKER_05 22:43

Oh uh I went to University of Virginia.

SPEAKER_02 22:46

Yeah, we share that grad school history.

SPEAKER_05 22:50

Uh so I went to get my master's in athletic training and uh Did you like Charlottesville? I loved Charlottesville. Yeah. I I you know the program that I entered into was like 16 months or something. It was like summer, fall, spring, summer. Um, but then I ended up staying longer and getting a PhD, which was not part of my original plan. Uh I tell my students that all the time. It's like good to have a plan, but it's also good to recognize that it won't it won't come to fruition the way you had it planned out. Um so yeah, my as a master's student I worked with the UVA swim and dive programs, which was really cool. Oh, yeah. I didn't know anything about swimming and uh but they were it's an excellent program there. And so both teams won the ACC championship and had some athletes go to the NCAA. So that was very that was very cool.

SPEAKER_02 23:35

Of course, the nice thing about going to UVA to grad school is because you had applied there to possibly transfer as an undergrad, you certainly weren't left with any feelings of, well, what if I had gone there? What would that experience have been? Because you got to experience that. Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_05 23:50

Yeah, like a sliding doors moment. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I did. So it worked, yeah, it worked out. So I was in Charlestville for five years. Um, I met my husband there at a bar that he owned. So, and then we left and moved to Toledo, Ohio. My first teaching job was at the University of Toledo. How did you like Toledo? You know, Toledo is like everybody's like, oh, Toledo. But it was an easy place to live. I mean, we I had no money, you know. It was like affordable. It was, you know, there's like it's just very low stress. Sure. People are super nice, you know. Close to Detroit, if you like if you're looking for, you know, some you go to a Tigers game or uh, you know, you go to Ann Arbor or whatever. I mean, there's like some stuff like that. It's an hour. Oh, I don't know. Yeah, and uh the airport's like even closer because it's airports on the south side. It's a really nice airport that you know you could easily go and you know, you could fly internationally very easily. Oh. So easy. It's a good time. Three years, three years in Toledo.

SPEAKER_02 24:50

Nice, cool. Well, we're gonna switch gears and move to the present. Okay. And of course the theme of faculty off the clock. Um, can you tell us about a current pastime or hobby that you enjoy regularly and how it got started?

SPEAKER_05 25:05

Yeah. Um, so I d I like yard work.

SPEAKER_02 25:10

Oh, so do I. Yeah, like just talking about it on the walk over here to this podcast.

SPEAKER_05 25:15

Not like what aspects like not like I don't have like a vegetable garden or really like a just I love the visual accomplishment of yard work. Like what aspects?

SPEAKER_04 25:25

Do you like to trim your the bushes? Do you like to mow the lawn? Yeah, topiary? No, no, I'm I'm not that fancy.

SPEAKER_05 25:31

But yeah, just like clean like yeah, cleaning the yard up, you know, hacking back weeds or vines, you know, the like the physicality of that. I I I will cut the grass. That doesn't tend to be my chore, but I have done it. I I did it for a while, and I will do it again at some point, I'm sure. Um yeah, weeding, like trimming back plants, planting new things, watching them fill in. Yeah. But I don't have like a garden per se. I mean, I have like flowers and stuff, but I'm like, here are my prized roses.

SPEAKER_02 26:02

Oh, you like spend the whole day out there on a Saturday, for example?

SPEAKER_05 26:05

I mean, I I have in the past. It it's hard on my back. So I struggle with that. You know, it's like something I like to do, but then I feel not great afterwards. Yeah so it's like trying to find a balance. But um yeah, just I think the like visual like oh, look how much I accomplished today. Look at all those yard bags out there. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:25

Feeling of accomplishment. Yeah, yeah. Mostly which our lives are not really. Do you when you mow? Yeah. Do you like to go straight lines or like do you like to make circles around things? Like, do you have a position?

SPEAKER_02 26:37

This is a really good question.

SPEAKER_05 26:38

Ooh. So I do like uh, it's like an oval, but it's like a moving oval, if you know what I mean. So, like, okay, if you if you imagine your, let's say your whole backyard is like a rectangle, I'll I'll do the whole perimeter. Uh, and then I'll go, you know, clockwise, uh, like over to the left side, and then I cut down the middle. And so you like cut the yard and tackle segments into a quadrant or a half, and then you kind of just take that same distance and go around.

SPEAKER_02 27:10

Is that the same approach you take every time you mow the lawn?

SPEAKER_05 27:14

Or I generally do follow the same path. Yeah, I mean, sometimes I'll I'll go the other way around, but yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:20

Yeah, I'm just curious because in future life I want to be a professional mower field. So I'd like to see what kind of people.

SPEAKER_05 27:31

Yes, and prototyping. You might be able to get like an internship at the Muni or something if they'll take you. I'd really like to competitive.

SPEAKER_03 27:39

I don't know, it'd be good.

SPEAKER_02 27:40

So, Dr. File, you know, considering all the different activities that you've been engaged in and are at present, is there one that you haven't yet tackled but would like to do so?

SPEAKER_05 27:52

Uh I think I'm just starting that. So I just started trying or playing tennis this summer. Oh as a new activity.

SPEAKER_02 28:01

Motivation to tackle tennis.

SPEAKER_05 28:03

So, I mean, obviously I like sports. Sure. Um, and and I realized so this past winter I joined a like four-on-four women's basketball league. And that was fun. Like being on a team was like, oh, that was really fun to be on a team again and just like compete against other people. Um, but I was like, I don't my whole goal for that winter was like, don't get hurt, don't get hurt. You know, one game a week. I was like, just don't don't retain your ACL, don't, don't tear an Achilles, something like that, you know. So I was retail. Yeah, re-tear. You've torn it before. I tore my ACL in grad school playing pickup basketball.

SPEAKER_04 28:37

Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_05 28:37

Just stupid. Yeah. Uh anyway, so I was like, I don't know if I can manage the physicality of that. Like, that's not like a lifetime activity, but tennis is. And my husband, my husband got really into tennis eight years ago. And his team, one of his Charleston teams, made it all the way to the Nationals in uh Orlando last fall, which was really which was cool and a big accomplishment. And and uh so he convinced me to to go down and um go on that trip with his team, and I was like, oh yeah, like so just seeing the camaraderie of his team was another thing. And you know, just having something to do that's fun, but also like have you ever played doubles with him? No, not yet.

SPEAKER_02 29:22

Is that something you might want to explain?

SPEAKER_05 29:24

I don't know that we'll ever be at the same level to do that.

SPEAKER_02 29:28

Um that was athletic.

SPEAKER_05 29:31

Yeah, I mean, we'll see. Yeah, you know, we've got time. So anyway, yeah, I started doing uh they do like adult clinics, like beginner clinics um at the various tennis centers around town, but I do the one on James Allen at Maybank Tennis Center. Okay. So it's been fun. Yeah, hoping to get on a team. I don't know if I'll be able to get on team for this fall, but maybe it's nice.

SPEAKER_02 29:49

It's nice about Charleston in the weather here, although it gets very hot in the summer, but it it is pretty much a year-round sport here in Charleston.

SPEAKER_05 29:55

Yeah, I mean it's uh I think it's more comfortable in the w there's but you know, there's a few times where you know he'll like leave the house with leggings and shorts and stuff, but most of the time it's better and seems like the weather's better in the winter for sport outside compared to I mean, la just you know, August or July was rough. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:15

And where do you and your husband come down on pickleball and the conversion? Oh, yeah, we've tennis to pickleball course.

SPEAKER_05 30:21

So uh we've played pickleball a few times with some friends. I would say I don't really have an opinion. Uh he's probably on the camp of there aren't enough tennis courts already, so please don't take our tennis course. I see. Yeah. I mean, and there's there's a lot of there's a big tennis community. And it's also really interesting to me. I don't know if there's any investors listening to this podcast, but you know, a little indoor tennis facility I think would kill in the Charleston area, and yet there doesn't seem to be one. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 30:51

Well, we have one last question before we get to the lightning round. If you weren't a faculty member here, what would you be doing?

SPEAKER_05 30:58

I think I would do something with like design, like interior design or landscape design, like something again, visual. I I like you know, kind of playing with a pattern and whatever. Yeah. So I think like I if I could go back, maybe that would be like a degree that I would have done like some kind of interior design, you know, studio.

SPEAKER_03 31:21

Did you do that in your house?

SPEAKER_05 31:22

Like Yeah, I mean, yeah. So um my husband and I we we haven't done it recently, but we've we've renovated and lived in and renovated and and renovated and sold, so like flipped uh like five or six different properties.

SPEAKER_04 31:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 31:36

So it's definitely something of interest to me, you know, like choosing tile and matching that with countertops and but yeah, I mean I I do and I do enjoy that. Like rotating pillows out, you know. No, I don't want I don't want I don't want other people to comment on what I do. And I don't want to have to like appe I mean, I guess that's the part I haven't thought about, like appease other people's interests. But like I I have have I've like helped some, you know, friends. Like, what do you think about this? Or like my friend the other day was like, Oh, can you come over and sort of look at our side yard and you know, what would you do from a planting standpoint, like that kind of thing.

SPEAKER_02 32:17

And you had some good input.

SPEAKER_05 32:19

I don't know if it was good, but I had input. Oh, that's good. That's important. I'm I'm not shy to offer my opinions if people are interested in taking it.

SPEAKER_02 32:26

If they ask, they're gonna get them.

SPEAKER_05 32:28

Yeah, yeah. Sometimes they'll get them even if they don't ask. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:35

Well, as Chris mentioned before, to conclude this episode is our lightning round, where we ask each guest some important standard questions again about your life off the clock. And we also want to clarify that we do know the difference between thunder and lightning. But since this is an audio podcast, we had to settle on the thunder sound effect to cue this portion of the interview.

SPEAKER_05 32:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 32:57

So to begin, what's your favorite carb?

SPEAKER_05 33:00

Oh, geez, favorite carb pasta. Pasta. Yeah. Like reviving it? Um, so I I have made I do make homemade pasta. Whoa.

SPEAKER_02 33:11

Yeah. I'm a big fan of homemade pasta.

SPEAKER_05 33:14

Yeah, I mean, it's so much better. It's just like so much better.

SPEAKER_02 33:17

Is this a regular thing that you do? Like once a month?

SPEAKER_05 33:21

No, not that regular. Uh maybe like three times a year, but I make like a lot and then freeze it.

SPEAKER_02 33:26

Does your husband enjoy and appreciate the homemade pasta?

SPEAKER_05 33:29

Yeah, he's a fan as well.

SPEAKER_02 33:30

I love homemade pasta.

SPEAKER_05 33:31

Yeah, so when I do that, it's like uh like thicker fettuccine type noodles. Yeah. But um, I also did get the attachment that does like like tubular type noodles. So I've tried that too. So I would say otherwise, probably like a um not rotini. I'm drawing a blank. Not or yeah, penne. Yeah. So I'd say like fettuccine or penne. They're like pretty universal.

SPEAKER_03 33:57

Oh, gnocchi.

SPEAKER_05 33:58

Yeah, so that's like potato based. So that's different. Well, you can also make a ricotta gnocchi as well. Yeah, I do like making that. Yeah, well, you're Polish. You just said you're Polish? Yeah. So that's like oh no, sorry, I'm thinking pierogis. Oh, pierogies. Oh, different. Also make the different potato thing. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 34:15

Uh favorite protein? Favorite protein. Geez, this is random, guys.

SPEAKER_02 34:20

I guess the idea is important. I mean, as an athlete, you gotta have pro good protein. No, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 34:25

You need to make a ravioli, what are you putting in there?

SPEAKER_05 34:27

Oh, yeah. No, I'm gonna say like burger. A burger. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:30

Make burgers at home?

SPEAKER_05 34:32

Not that often.

SPEAKER_02 34:33

What's your favorite burger place here in Charleston?

SPEAKER_05 34:35

Ooh, that's a good question. I mean, the one that I go to the most is probably low down on Folly Road on James Island.

SPEAKER_02 34:40

Never been. They do a good burger.

SPEAKER_05 34:42

They have a burger night, don't go on burger night. That's usually the I mean, that's usually the case for most places. You know, they're just like pumping out burgers constantly, so that they just don't, they're not as good. Do you ever have the burger at Rudejon? The Rudejon burger is good.

SPEAKER_02 34:55

It's pretty good. It's often overlooked. Yeah, people don't think about a burger at Rudejon. It is really good. Quite good.

SPEAKER_05 34:59

I've been there for that's a really quality brunch burger. Okay. If you need a little vitamin G. Vitamin Grease.

SPEAKER_02 35:07

Yeah. Pizza tacos.

SPEAKER_05 35:10

Pizza.

SPEAKER_02 35:11

Favorite pizza place in town?

SPEAKER_05 35:14

Baker's Bar? West Ashley? South Windermere West Ashley. Never been. Have you ever been?

SPEAKER_04 35:19

No.

SPEAKER_05 35:19

Oh shoot. Come on, check it out, guys. Yeah. Sourdough crust. Oh. I will say that it's a lot, it's a lot of crust. So, you know, if you need a if you like a little extra sauce, then I would suggest the extra sauce dipping sauce. Keep that place in mind. Yeah, they also make a really good big salad.

SPEAKER_03 35:36

Oh, I like a salad.

SPEAKER_05 35:37

Yeah, it's big. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:40

Um frozen yogurt or ice cream? That's controversial. Oh, no, bring it.

SPEAKER_05 35:45

Ice cream. No, well, I mean, I I live in a soft serve ice cream household. Correct.

SPEAKER_02 35:50

So you said it goes to the cool serve the excuse me. Do you prefer the hard ice cream? No, you like soft serve better.

SPEAKER_05 35:57

Oh, yeah, soft serve. Okay. Yeah. And not frozen yogurt. No. No. Bring on the lactose. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:04

Gotcha. You like hot dogs?

SPEAKER_05 36:07

I do like a hot dog.

SPEAKER_02 36:08

What do you put on it? Mustard or ketchup?

SPEAKER_05 36:10

Uh ketchup. Maybe a little mustard, but more ketchup to than mustard ratio. Okay. Yeah. We usually get Costco hot dogs. They're big. Long.

SPEAKER_02 36:19

They're the Costco brand hot dogs.

SPEAKER_05 36:21

Costco brand, yeah. Sell it in the case. No, they're good. Yeah. Don't uh don't. Are you good at Costco all the yuck? No. Don't yuck my yum, Mark.

SPEAKER_02 36:30

I'm a real snob when it comes to hot dogs.

SPEAKER_05 36:32

Have you tried it?

SPEAKER_02 36:34

Are those the same ones that they serve at the I don't think so. One of those give me a bit. Oh, Hebrew National.

SPEAKER_03 36:40

They're good. We like Nathans.

SPEAKER_02 36:42

Nathan's is a good second. But we don't eat hot dogs frequently, but we do. I mean, like if someone's serving them at their at a barbecue and they they have hamburgers or hot dogs, always go for the hamburger because if I don't know the source of the hot dog, I'm not touching it.

SPEAKER_05 36:55

But do you have like a preferred hamburger meat ratio? You know, are you like an 80-20 guy? Or I mean there there's some. These are tough questions.

SPEAKER_02 37:04

Yeah, this is really deep. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 37:05

I mean, it's well he's he's questionable about the hot dog, but what about the hamburger meat?

SPEAKER_02 37:09

The preparation is key. Well, that I mean you you you you hamburger meat is important, um, but the preparation is even more important.

SPEAKER_05 37:16

Like preformed patty versus hand patty.

SPEAKER_02 37:20

I like hand patties. Yeah, and I like a good smash.

SPEAKER_03 37:22

My mom would just put like uh onion soup mix into the Oh yeah, my mine did too.

SPEAKER_05 37:28

The dried dried mix.

SPEAKER_02 37:30

I forgot about that. Mom used to do that. Those are good.

SPEAKER_05 37:33

But if I'm at a cookout and they're serving pre-pattied hamburgers versus a hot dog, I'm actually gonna go hot dog.

SPEAKER_02 37:41

I'll still go pre-patty. No. And the hamburger. I might go both.

SPEAKER_03 37:46

Uh you get hush puppies or french fries. Ooh.

SPEAKER_05 37:51

I mean, I think french fries, but hush puppies are good. But I mean, what am I eating it with? Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_04 37:56

Barbecue, hush puppies. Sure.

SPEAKER_05 37:58

Yeah. Burger, french fries.

SPEAKER_02 38:01

Preferred cut in the french fries.

SPEAKER_05 38:03

I like like a medium cut, I guess, like Wendy's, maybe. Like I don't like shoestring or too limp.

SPEAKER_02 38:10

Waffle fries?

SPEAKER_05 38:11

I like a waffle fry. Uh curly fry? Ollie curly fry, yeah. Arby's curly fries.

SPEAKER_02 38:17

Oh, I love the Arby's curly fries.

SPEAKER_05 38:19

Uh low Life on Folly has a really good waffle fry. Really?

SPEAKER_03 38:23

Yes, they do. Oh, you're familiar with this too, don't, Dr. Corey? Yes, the lowlife. That's also where you can get the hams beer with uh hot sauce and lime. Lime. Really? Yeah, I can't remember what it is.

SPEAKER_05 38:35

They don't call it an ashtray. They call it something like loaded. I think they call it loaded, maybe. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 38:40

You've had it too, Dr. Corey. I have.

SPEAKER_05 38:42

Like it? Yeah. It's yeah. I mean it it doctors up. Well, it doctors up the hams, which is by itself is an amazing Oh I I'm sorry. Didn't mean to offend.

SPEAKER_02 38:54

Do you have a favorite soft drink moving away from the Oh Coke products?

SPEAKER_05 38:58

I'm a Coke girl. I mean cherry coke heavy. Like I dr I've I used to drink like the rule growing up was you know, one soda a day. That was that was it. And I actually have like stuck to that as an adult.

unknown 39:12

Really?

SPEAKER_05 39:12

Yeah, even though I never don't go diet. Obviously, buy my own soda. I could, you know, have more than one if I want. But uh one a day, and then no, about probably I don't know, pre-COVID. I'm gonna say seven or eight years ago, I switched to zeros. So I see. But I think the best of the Coke Zero is the Cherry Coke Zero.

SPEAKER_03 39:34

Interesting. Yeah. Um i i other than your yard work landscaping, uh uh like another favorite off-the-clock activity. Like puzzles, jigsaw puzzles. Do you do you have a limit to the number of pieces you're willing to go? And like my as soon as it hits above 500, my wife's like, nah, I prefer like a thousand. We're doing one right now where it just feels like I'm just like trying to find patterns.

SPEAKER_05 39:59

Oh yeah. I did um uh 500 goes too too quick for me. Like I'll just I can knock that out in like a day sometimes.

SPEAKER_02 40:07

I don't do them often, but I like a jig swap post. I love growing up at the time. Yeah. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 40:13

You can just sort of like zone out. Yeah. You could have music on the background, you could have like, you know, my sports rerun of a movie or like a rewatchables movie or a TV show. Yeah, and you can just kind of like I think it's like my version of reading where it's like I'm active, my brain is I'm using it, but not in a way that's like I can kind of zone out from you know, work or other stuff. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 40:35

Do you have an off-the-clock activity that you would prefer to do alone or that you do do alone?

SPEAKER_05 40:40

Oh. I mean, I generally do puzzles alone. Okay. My husband does not like a puzzle. Okay. Uh and actually I don't, I mean, I'll let other people help me, but I'm kind of like Mike, leave me alone.

SPEAKER_02 40:50

This is my puzzle.

SPEAKER_05 40:50

Yeah. Or like I want to do.

SPEAKER_02 40:52

So you choose the puzzles then too.

SPEAKER_05 40:54

Oh yeah. Yeah. During COVID, I so I got like several during COVID.

SPEAKER_02 40:58

Hostile to the idea of someone gifting you a no, no.

SPEAKER_05 41:01

If they give me a puzzle, I'll do it. Okay. But like I have in my the room that I use as like home office, uh, I have I've framed, so I've picked ones that I like the picture of and I've framed them so they're now like artists. Oh, cool.

SPEAKER_03 41:16

Have you do you have ever done the Liberty Wood puzzles?

SPEAKER_05 41:19

Yes. I did do one of those. Yeah, super cool. Uh it was like a the Van Gogh starry nights. It was really challenging.

SPEAKER_06 41:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 41:26

And then, but actually, I'm gonna say the hardest puzzle I've done recently, maybe ever, but one of that I can remember is last summer. My sister, so she's an English teacher. And uh do you remember the like like retro read posters? Um they would have like celebrities. It was sort of like like the Got Milk campaign. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But instead it was like celebrities and like read, it was trying to get kids to read. Well, there was a poster that had the band REM. It was just like the band members, they're like all wearing kind of black or dark colors, and then they're on a black, on a a blue background, and then it just says read across the top. And I was like, that ended up being the hardest puzzle I've ever done because it's the background is just solid blue. Yeah. I mean, it got to the point where I was just taking every that one I almost quit, taking every piece. I would have quit if it wasn't for her classroom, but I had to like basically just take every piece and be like, does this one fit? Nope. Does this one fit?

SPEAKER_03 42:20

Like we're doing one right now that's like that. That's not fun.

SPEAKER_05 42:23

No, there needs to be some visual cue. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 42:27

So you liked uh music of the 60s? Yes. Um you wanted to know your favorite music band from your youth. Would it come from then or do you something a little later?

SPEAKER_05 42:36

A band. I'm not good at these questions. Like favorite movie, favorite band. Um, I really don't have a favorite band.

SPEAKER_03 42:47

I mean if you were gonna sing along to the music from the 60s, what would you have to be your go-to?

SPEAKER_02 42:53

You're feeling nostalgic today. You go home to your husband and say, hey, I want to listen to this.

SPEAKER_05 42:57

Sing Yellow Submarine. Ooh, yeah, no, that one gets stuck in your head, right? Um Yeah, I mean, like, I think like the Supremes, like you can't go, I mean, that puts you everybody in a good mood. Oh, yeah, I totally agree. Yeah. I mean, I I could sing a lot of Supreme songs, you don't want me to, but Marvin can get all that stuff. Yeah, I would say like, yeah, Motown, but that's not a band. But yeah, the Supremes. They're a group.

SPEAKER_02 43:20

Yeah, they sure are. Okay. Good. Prefer cold or hot weather.

SPEAKER_05 43:27

I mean, I guess medium.

SPEAKER_02 43:30

Medium. Did you did you get fall is my favorite? Did you get some snow in in in your hometown of Virginia growing up?

SPEAKER_05 43:35

Yeah, we we would get snow sometimes. We got the we got a threat of snow. Uh no, I don't miss snow. I do like it to be cold though, to then like appreciate the warmth, you know? When it's always the same, like you need some variety so that you were like, hey, it rained, it's sunny, like you need some a good sweatshirt on the side.

SPEAKER_01 43:54

I don't need to be reminded of an ice cold day.

SPEAKER_05 43:57

No, not I'm not talking ice cold. I mean, yeah, the last Winter that we lived in Toledo. Um I think that January, like it literally did not get above freezing, even during the day, and I was like, alright, I'm over this. Yeah. You know, short, short daylight, freezing temps.

SPEAKER_04 44:13

Like everybody was excited of this last note we had this past winter, and I was like, oh, stay away. It's novel, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Whatever.

SPEAKER_03 44:23

Yeah. Mustard vinegar tomato base for your southern barbecue.

SPEAKER_05 44:27

What is um pulled pork? Yeah, okay. I'm putting on pulled pork. Okay. So I think I like tomato because what's the um like uh the western North Carolina. What's the brand that I shoot? I'm totally drawing a blank. I can't think of it.

SPEAKER_02 44:45

Yeah, the grocery store sold brand of tomato-based barbers.

SPEAKER_05 44:50

It's kind of sweet, but it's like dark, it's like dark maroon-y brown. But that's gotta be tomato-based, right?

unknown 44:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 44:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 44:58

Plane, train, or automobile?

SPEAKER_05 45:00

Train. I did a no one has a everybody likes trains. Everybody. Nobody's had anything else? No, everybody loves the train. I did train this summer, you know, a couple times, but train from Edinburgh to London. I mean, it's easy.

SPEAKER_02 45:14

So are you saying train more in Europe? Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 45:18

I've taken the train like from DC to New York.

SPEAKER_02 45:21

Yeah, more like a commuter type, uh, as opposed to like a you know cross-country train, like a real trip.

SPEAKER_05 45:27

My mom did at one point in the last year or so propose that we do like a family train ride from like Chicago to Seattle, and I was like, Ooh, hell no, mom. Like that's that's excessive. I was like, y'all can do that, and I'll I'll meet you in Chicago and then I'll fly and I'll meet you in Seattle. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:46

I haven't heard a lot of good.

SPEAKER_05 45:48

That's just that's a long, that's just a long time. It's I mean, there's an efficiency component too, you know. Sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:54

All right. Uh toothpaste dispensing method.

SPEAKER_05 45:57

Oh, so I've done my research. I've I've I hear that you're very particular about this question.

SPEAKER_02 46:02

You know, everybody has their different tastes, but it yeah, the approach is. Uh how you actually do it.

SPEAKER_05 46:17

Yeah, yeah. So I I squeeze from the bottom because why not? Uh um, but I I'm not like I'm not like killing my knuckles to get the very last.

SPEAKER_02 46:28

It's not an obsession when you get to the end to see how long you can delay the new tube.

SPEAKER_05 46:32

I don't use like two hands to squeeze the like you know, the firm plastic nozzle uh against the f flimsier tube part, but I'll use one to kind of create a lot of.

SPEAKER_02 46:43

But you only use your hands to get Yeah, I don't use any uh implements.

SPEAKER_03 46:47

Or cut off the top.

SPEAKER_05 46:49

No. Yeah. Do you cut off the top? I mean that is. It depends on my mood. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:53

Um every time.

SPEAKER_05 46:54

I mean also how much toothpaste? I mean, how often you're gonna have to do that. 50% of the time.

SPEAKER_02 46:58

50% of the time. My wife will come in and say, you just cut the tube top off.

SPEAKER_05 47:04

And what do you use? Scissors?

SPEAKER_02 47:06

I have I have a special um small scissors that I use to cut the top off. And you can get another you can get another three to four brushings out of that just in FYI.

SPEAKER_05 47:17

Have you done a like a cost analysis of No, it's in my brain. Okay. I mean, I I feel like if we were on the prices right, I don't know that I would be able to say how much a tube of toothpaste could be. But like $3.50, like what, four or four dollars? Depending on the brand and size.

SPEAKER_02 47:35

Yeah, it's really a an acceptance of defeat when you have to move to the new tube.

SPEAKER_05 47:39

It's like I Oh it's not a r it's not like exciting.

SPEAKER_02 47:42

No, it's not. It's it's it's a it's upsetting. Oh.

SPEAKER_05 47:45

I don't I I think the the least favorite time to squeeze a toothpaste tube is the very beginning. I like it to be like straight middle. Started it already a little bit. Yeah, I like the end. The end is like. Squeezing from the end when it's full is like it's kind of awkward. I can't get a good grasp on it.

SPEAKER_02 47:59

Do you like popcorn?

SPEAKER_05 48:00

I do.

SPEAKER_02 48:02

How do you like to prepare it? Do you prepare it at home or do you prefer to buy it already pre-made?

SPEAKER_05 48:07

I like the kettle corn popcorn.

SPEAKER_02 48:11

Pre-made.

SPEAKER_05 48:12

Yeah, I like the what's the purple, the like it's not Jenny's, what's it called? Uh the brand. I can't think of it. It comes in a purple bag.

SPEAKER_02 48:20

Do you ever make it at home?

SPEAKER_05 48:23

Popcorn?

SPEAKER_02 48:23

Popcorn, yes.

SPEAKER_05 48:24

Yeah, I'll make popcorn at home. How do you make it? Uh a microwave in a like you know, bag. Pre-package, you stick it in there. Yeah, I'm like very low maintenance house.

SPEAKER_02 48:34

Yeah. No traditional approach.

SPEAKER_05 48:35

I don't have any I don't have a strategy.

SPEAKER_02 48:37

I don't have like a sounds like you don't care to. The quicker the better it sounds.

SPEAKER_03 48:41

I I can send you the link to the whirly pop and you can try it out. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 48:44

Retreat yourself, really. And the whirly pop is a game changer. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 48:48

I how often are we eating popcorn in this room?

SPEAKER_03 48:50

Many times a week.

SPEAKER_02 48:51

Oh, because Dr. Corey is an avid popcorn eater.

SPEAKER_05 48:54

Like popcorn instead of dinner or like after dinner, pre-for-score? Yeah, pre-dinner snack. Pre-dinner snack.

SPEAKER_03 49:01

Watch a baseball game, popcorn. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 49:03

Do you have other people that are helping you eat this popcorn? My wife and I, kids. That's one of my challenges that is like, you know, you pop I'm I don't want to eat all that popcorn.

SPEAKER_03 49:12

Like that's what whirly pop allows you to depends on how much you want to make.

SPEAKER_05 49:16

Okay. So I could make just like two handfuls. Yep. Yeah. Do you ever have to do that? And it's very efficient.

SPEAKER_02 49:20

I mean, does it bother you that you have all of these unpopped kernels at the end?

SPEAKER_05 49:25

Nah. I mean sometimes, but not I'm not like losing sleep over the unpopped kernels.

SPEAKER_02 49:29

Losing sleep. Okay. It bothers me. So and that's the beauty of the whirly pop is that it's you get them all. They all I mean, there's hardly any unpopped kernels at the end of the day. No kernel left behind. I feel good about sustainability after that. Okay. All right.

SPEAKER_05 49:43

Well, thank you for balancing me. You're welcome. That's really good.

SPEAKER_03 49:47

All right, so our our last question. Um you're you're going back to your high school. Uh-huh. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Hall of Fame. Yeah. Introducing you.

SPEAKER_05 49:55

Hall of Fame entrance song. Hall of Fame. Oh, yeah. I'm indu I'm inducting the next class.

unknown 49:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:59

And you're you're walking in. Oh. What's your entrance? I mean, you're a Hall of Famer.

SPEAKER_05 50:04

So this is sports.

SPEAKER_04 50:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 50:05

It could be anything. I mean, I feel like it might have to be something off of like jock jams. Like, I don't know. Volume two. I don't I don't know all the volumes at all.

SPEAKER_02 50:13

Particular song, maybe?

SPEAKER_05 50:15

Yeah, maybe like, well, it's a big pump-up song. So, well. I mean, Queen. There's a lot of good Queen stuff out there. Or like ACDC. Like that's that's good. I would say also. Do you have the rights for it? I don't know. So maybe a different one. Tricky. Um. So I remember, you know, we would make like a warm-up tape for basketball every year. And I remember this the my favorite like run-out song on that was I think it was eighth grade, it was Montel Jordan. This is how we do it.

SPEAKER_04 50:47

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 50:48

This is how you do it. Oh, you're getting really karaoke. Yeah, it was good. Yeah. So that so it might be that. Yeah. I'm gonna go Montel Jordan. Yeah, I'm feeling kind of a one-put. I'm feeling kind of bumped right now, actually.

SPEAKER_03 51:00

Yeah, get ready. Alright, Dr. Fowl, thanks so much for sharing today about your time off the clock and for giving listeners an alternate glimpse into your life outside the classroom. We really appreciate it. And as a personalized marketing tool, we will ask you to display your new bobblehead when it comes in. We'll be presenting it to you to represent your lighter side as revealed to us today. Thank you. Alright, you're welcome. It's fun. Stay tuned for next month's installment when we learn more about the life off the clock of another College of Charleston professor.

SPEAKER_02 51:28

Thanks, Dr. Father.

SPEAKER_01 51:29

Yeah, you're welcome.